Dumme Frage...gute Antwort...

[Gast Harlekin]

dieser General gefällt mir

Dumme_Frage.doc

Harlekin

[El Marinero]

Einfach nur göttlich !

[low-ready]

Naja, wo er recht hat, hat er recht

[bopper]

Immer wieder lustig.

[AxelCGN]

Ich glaube, der Spruch saß... ))))

[Papermaker]

Kommt effizienter als wenn er sich als nicht entwickelter Vergewaltiger dargestellt hätte...

[Gast]

GENIAL der General...........

Best

2RECON

[SeinePestilenz]

Ich glaube, der Spruch saß... ))))

Glaube ich bei dem steinalten - aber trotzdem amüsanten Hoax - eher Weniger. Die Ganze Geschichte ist pure Fiktion und geistert seit Anno Tobak in verschiedenen Variationen herum.

In der vorliegenden Abwandlung ist lediglich bemerkenswert, dass der vermeintliche Protagonist, General Cosgrove, als Person wirklich existiert. Das war es dann aber auch schon.

As great a tale as this is, it's pure fabrication. It began life in 1999, purportedly about an "LTG Reinwald" of the US Army. In 2001 it reappeared, this time attributed to "Marine Corps General Reinwald."

The U.S. Army denies that there is a Lieutenant General Reinwald and chalks the whole thing up as a hoax. (Which is as logic dictated all along; if an armed forces spokesperson ever gave voice to a sexist remark likening a female interviewer to a prostitute, that officer would soon be called upon to make a very public apology as well as face charges within ranks for conduct unbecoming.)

National Public Radio had this to say about the matter:

We are aware of an erroneous story posted on the Free Republic Website, and possibly elsewhere, which mentions a supposed interview between an unnamed NPR reporter and a U.S Army Lieutenant General Reinwald. The story is false — the dialogue mentioned was not an NPR interview, and it never aired on any NPR program.

Those who like their guns and who believe responsible gun ownership begins with teaching young people the right way to handle firearms at an early age have a great fondness for this story. As well they should, because this anecdote illustrates in a humorous way the difference between having the ability to do something and that ability dictating life choices.

The "Reinwald" story existed as a joke as far back as October 1997 when it appeared on a number of web pages in the following form:

Excerpt from a recent live radio interview on one of the regional Welsh stations:

A female newscaster is interviewing the leader of a Youth club:

Interviewer: So, Mr. Jones, what are you going to do with these children on this adventure holiday?

Mr Jones: We're going to teach them climbing, abseiling, canoeing, archery, shooting...

Interviewer: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible isn't it?

Jones: I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range.

Interviewer: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

Jones: I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper range discipline before they even touch a firearm.

Interviewer: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

Jones: Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute but you're not one are you?

Needless to say, the interview was terminated almost immediately.

Notice the differences that have taken place between the two tellings:

* "Abseiling" has been taken out of the Americanized version (probably because whoever altered the text didn't know it was a rock climbing term meaning rappelling down rock faces).

* A Welsh youth club leader called Mr. Jones has been transformed in a named Lieutenant General in the American army.

* Welsh children (presumably boys and girls) have become American Boy Scouts.

* A regional Welsh radio station has become the National Public Radio in the United States.

If there's still any doubt someone took a joke set in Wales and changed details to Americanize it, look to the Reinwald version given in the example. Although the term "adventure holiday" is common in Britain, one would never hear it used in North America.

Looks like whoever altered the text missed that one.

No anecdote is so good that it cannot be improved upon, and that appears to be what happened here. To give the story its proper "oomph," having the telling remark issue from a mere youth club leader wouldn't do. But make the man with the snappy comeback a Lieutenant General in the U.S. Army, and the story becomes ever so much more tellable.

The key element of the Reinwald legend has appeared in other tales. Observe the form it took in this story, which was told as a joke, not as an event that actually happened.

[Collected on the Internet, 2000]

A couple went on vacation to a fishing resort up north. The husband liked to fish at the crack of dawn. The wife liked to read.

One morning the husband returned after several hours of fishing and decided to take a short nap. Although she wasn't familiar with the lake, the wife decided to take the boat out.

She rowed out a short distance, anchored, and returned to reading her book. Along came the sheriff in his boat. He pulled up alongside her and said, "Good morning, Ma'am. What are you doing?"

"Reading my book" she replies as she thinks to herself, "Isn't it obvious?"

"You're in a restricted fishing area," he informed her.

"But officer, I'm not fishing. Can't you see that?"

"Yes, but you have all the equipment. I'll have to take you in and write you up."

"If you do that, I'll have to charge you with rape," snapped the irate woman.

"But, I haven't even touched you," groused the sheriff.

"Yes, that's true," she replied, "but you do have all the equipment."

MORAL: Never argue with a woman who knows how to read.

Variations: In 2007, the version in circulation changed the fictitious Lieutenant General Reinwald of the USA into the real General Peter Cosgrove of Australia, with the interview shifted from National Public Radio (NPR) to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC). The actual General Cosgrove had not given such an interview — this was a case of a real name being used to dress up a fiction.

http://www.snopes.com/military/reinwald.asp

Wobei mir der englische "Wortlaut" der erfundenen Geschichte immer noch am besten gefällt - weil einfach knochentrocken-sachlich:

Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute but you're not one are you?

[Loewe66]

Deisen Spruch muß ich mir merken

[Lady Elisabeth]

Hihi.....

[SIeGer]

Es geht doch nicht unbedingt um die Authentizität.

Es ist ein guter Spruch wenn jemand immer weiter bohrt und auf was IHM genehmes hinaus will.

Nett.

[Tyr13]

Ich kenn die Story auch noch vor Gericht:

Ein Mann wird wegen unerlaubtem Waffenbesitz verknackt, zu 100,-€. Er protestiert gegen das Urteil:

Angeklagter:

"Ich habe niemanden verletzt, bedroht, gefährdet"

Staatsanwalt:

"Von der Waffe geht eine Latente Gefahr aus. Sie sind ein potentieller Mörder. Dafür werden Sie bestraft !"

Angeklagter:

"Okay, dann sind hier nochmal 100,-€, damit ich nicht nächste Woche wiederkommen muss, um dann meine Strafe als potentieller Vergewaltiger abzuliefern."

[GERMAN SNIPER]

Sehr schön!

[spyder7022]

Ist bereits weitergeleitet worden.....

Gruss

Spyder

[l.t.pete]

Paßt schon !

[uwewittenburg]

Ein Mann wird wegen unerlaubtem Waffenbesitz verknackt, zu 100,-€. Er protestiert gegen das Urteil:

So niedrig fällt aber nicht einmal ein Bußgeldbescheid bei einem Jugendlichen aus!

[Huskydoc]

Meine Güte, glaubt ihr DAS ist ECHT???

Passt halt in das Denkschema eines entsprechenden einzelnen.................

Das Ding ist so alt..., meine Fresse, wie lange habe ich schon Internet??????????

[Putti]

Kann ja durchaus alt sein, na und ?

Sind die Argumente unserer Gegner jemals neu/frisch/unverbraucht ?

Ein wenig Sonne in die schon fast erfrorenen Schützenherzen, ein Lächeln in Zeiten der Angst, hervorgerufen durch diesen Staat und seine Büttel.

Ich habe es gern weitergeleitet !

[Gast Harlekin]

Ein wenig Sonne in die schon fast erfrorenen Schützenherzen, ein Lächeln in Zeiten der Angst, hervorgerufen durch diesen Staat und seine Büttel.

genau deshalb habe ich es eingestellt (auch wenn ich selbst ein Büttel bin)!

Harlekin

[Putti]

genau deshalb habe ich es eingestellt (auch wenn ich selbst ein Büttel bin)!

Harlekin

Gibt wohl solche und solche

Ich kenne auch aus dieser Spezies welche, die 100% i.O. sind und das genaue Gegenteil. Immer wieder diese Menschen ...

[tetzlaffMR73]

Saagenhaft, ob authentisch oder nicht.

Ist grad durch meinen Verteiler gelaufen...