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EJER Fuchs

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  1. It may well be that a jury will acquit. A Louisana jury acquitted the coward who ran to the door and killed a Japanese exchange student dressed as John Travolta's character in "Saturday Night Fever" because the student knocked on his door and the moron's wife screamed. I'd call it Murder 2; the jury rationalized it as some self-defense BS. However, we don't know a lot of facts beyond the homeowner setting a trap and the dead student being in the garage, apparently on the phone (and I'd LOVE to hear the details on that). As we say in the states, "Film at 11:00."
  2. 1. This is clearly not a self-defense, or even "stand your ground" case. 2. Should the student have been in the garage? Probably not, but we do NOT yet know why he was there. Supposedly, he was on the phone - to whom, and why? 3. Did he pose a threat to the homeowner? Clearly not. 4. Was he engaged in a theft or destruction of property? Apparently not. I know of only ONE state that allows the use of deadly force to protect mere property; Texas. This strikes me as a sicko looking to shoot someone, and someone stupid enough to get sucked into that game.
  3. And chief in an urban jungle. He knows whereof he speaks. Just look at the number of homeowners in Detroit who have had to shoot home invaders, this year alone.
  4. Dead on about the Swiss - how could I forget them? The French? Be serious. France's most potent military force is the FFL - composed, by definition, of foreigners. The revolutions of 1848 DID send warning shots - literally - across the brows of certain crowned heads, Prussia (there was no Germany yet) included. However, the 20th century brought curbs on 19th century liberties. And "game laws" restricting arms were centuries old then. " So do you agree that people on the piece of dirt called "Germany" have the same inalienable rights as those born on the piece of dirt called "America" but are stripped of some of them (in particular the right to own firearms) by force? " People ANYWHERE have rights inherent in their personhood. And people have their rights stripped from them - or have surrendered them - in many places, by force and/or necessity of mere survival. Those on the brink of starvation will accede to whatever fills their belly - or, more importantly, their children's.
  5. "So the Indians in North America didn't have the right to life and property? The slaves didn't have the right to be free? The jews in Nazi Germany didn't have any rights at all? "Well, sounds like you think that it was ok to punish slaves who tried to escape from slavery in the South because those in power did not grant them their rights." What fatuous, if not deliberate, drivel. Not only did I say so such thing; I never intimated anything close to is. The native Americans could not enforce their rights and were, therefore, exterminated or forcibly relocated and indoctrinated. Why? Because they lacked sufficient numbers and weapons to protect their rights when force was used against them. Their rights were effectively stripped from them, and it took almost three-quarters of a century before they could start recovering them. Slaves were obtained and kept by force, fear and ignorance. How? They lacked the organization, communication and weapons to stage a successful revolt. When there were revolts (Google "Nat Turner"), they were brutally suppressed, with even more punitive laws enacted afterwoards. That is how the slaves were kept divested of their rights. It took a century, and a sea-change in national attitudes as the result of well-orchestrated protests, before the promise of Reconstruction was really achieved. The Jews? Please. The German government systematically stripped them of their rights, their property, their existence, and tried damned hard to eradicate their entire race and culture. Through LAWS. Their fellow German citizens aided and abetted in the process, and perpetrated the pograms across most of Europe thereafter. THAT is how the Jews lost their rights, as you damned well know. Call and raise.
  6. The rights you have are the rights you can get those in power to both acknowledge and respect. That is a problem everywhere, even in the U.S. Do the majority - or even a significant minority - of GERMANS believe they have a fundamental, INDIVIDUAL right to be armed for defense of self and family? If not, you have identified the fundamental problem.
  7. "Did I miss the part about the gun lobby achieving that by arguing that law-abiding hunters and sports shooters are completely harmless, or are they actually doing something completely different from what we are being told by our "lobby" organisations is the only strategy we should even think of pursuing?" NO; you deliberately ignored the fundamental structural and cultural difference between the US and most of Europe and the other former English colonies. Canada, Australia, etc. have aped no-longer-Great Britain in eschewing individualism and fundamental precepts of citizens as autonomous to adopt socialism and the nanny-state mentality. Europe, of course, NEVER had a truly armed citizenry; the privileged classes controlled access to arms for hundreds of years; first, to protect knights in armor, then to protect their vast hunting preserves from poachers. Keeping peasants poorly armed was a matter of actual and economic survival. In the US, the country was created by people who used firearms daily as a matter of fundamental survival; to get food, to keep from becoming food, and to protect their homesteads from the original owners. Firearms ownership by all is inherent in our history. Therefore, German gun owners do not have the cultural and legal bulwarks Americans do, and have to appease the hoplophobes with assurances of safety and submission. Don't blame your lobbies for using not using inapplicable tactics.
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